Need about 600 more skill points please... - Guild Wars Forums

[email protected] · Oct 13, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20

4 lvl 20 PvE chars wanna try out another secondary profession. The only choice is to delete the characters and restart what a situation.

Example, a lvl 20 E with 2 classes unlocked wants to try a third, Ranger secondary as profession. Changes in desert, gets 2 skills by default. Has 2 skill points, needs 15 skill points. Kinda short eh??? What about the other secondaries? I'm about oh 150 skill points short per character of being able to switch secondaries in PvE, yet I have most primaries unlocked. So....delete hundreds of hours of work to try a secondary on a fully unlocked character??

Saba The Hobo · Oct 13, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Best bet is to load up on scrolls and do UW/FoW runs. They lowered the xp needed to get new skill points to somewhere around 15k now, so it shouldn't be that hard (boring, but it beats making a new characters) to grab a few with scrolls up.

[email protected] · Oct 13, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

How many skill points does someone get on a UW/FoW run?

Seissor · Oct 13, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

How many skill points does someone get on a UW/FoW run?

Between 5000 and 50, 000....I think.

Also, Sorrows Furnace is an alright place.

[email protected] · Oct 13, 2005, 05:04 AM // 05:04

Can u narrow that range a bit, and skill points, not exp points.

I'm guessing 2 is a good run, so three runs I can buy a few skills.

How long does a 2 skill point run take in UW/Fow??

Kai Nui · Oct 13, 2005, 05:06 AM // 05:06

you start all new classes from desert back at ascalon to get your 4 or so skills per attribute.

[email protected] · Oct 13, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Yea I'm aware there's several quests dedicated to each profession near ascalon. This gives you the pre sear skills.

Other advanced skills you must buy from trainer if you've already done the primary quest.

Kamatsu · Oct 13, 2005, 06:52 AM // 06:52

You don't just get pre-searing skills from the ascalon & Northern Shiverpeaks quest's. Yes you can get the basic skills - but you also get a small selection of skills not available in pre-searing.

Like doing the Ranger quest's for Master Ranger Nemtre will net you Hunter's Shot, which is not a skill you get in pre-searing.

In fact you can pick up quite a few skills per class in the Ascalon region as well as in Yak's Bend & Traveller's Vale. These are skills not available in pre-searing and come from class specific quest's. If you refuse to do those quest's and waste skill point's getting those skills.. thats your problem.

Take Monk's for example. Two quest's they can do is Replacement Healers & The WayWard Monk quest's.. I believe these are monk specific.. and will net you 5 Monk skills.. Vigorous Spirit, Pacifism, Divine Boon, Infuse Health & Strength of Honor. None of these are pre-searing skills.. and all 5 are easy to get via these quests.. and I do believe these quest's are only offered as Monk primary/secondary... Thus if you waste skill points getting those 5 skills.. your a bloody idiot mate.

Carinae · Oct 13, 2005, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

Can u narrow that range a bit, and skill points, not exp points.

I'm guessing 2 is a good run, so three runs I can buy a few skills.

How long does a 2 skill point run take in UW/Fow??

There are numerous quests that offers 5000-10000 experience points in UW/FoW.

Everytime you "level up", you get a new skill point. At 10k per quest it doesnt take long at all.

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 13, 2005, 02:28 PM // 14:28

You are a "skill" packrat...

You don't NEED 150skill points. All you need are a few skill points to augment a build using a few secondary skills...

If you have THAT much time to lvl up 4 lvl 20 pve characters, then you shouldn't be complaining... I have 2 lvl 20s and each of them have 25 skill points to spare. Funny thing is, my W/N unlocked every single skill 'cept elites... I only get skills when I desperately need them. The majority I WIN through skill quests...

Your complaint is unfounded and for me, in my opinion, whining...

Arturo02 · Oct 13, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

It's only half that number, 150 is for two professions. I don't know if this is that much good news, your still talking 70 something skill points.

And Yukito, it's a slim majority. You have to buy about half your skills for any profession. That's skills and elites, btw. I do agree, you don't need them all.

sleazeh · Oct 13, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

The real problem nowadays isnt so much getting the requisite experience to garner the skill points, it's being able to afford to buy them.

With UW, FoW, SF, and some of the late game missions, I would expect that most characters have more skill points then they can use after a period of time. It does sting when you switch to a new secondary and spend 20-40k on skills at Ember.

I also agree that at least at first, one should be selective as to which skills to purchase.

If you are aiming at a complete account unlock in a short period of time....well....it's going to cost you.

Arturo02 · Oct 13, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

it costs a total of just under 9 plat for your first 20 skills. From #21 on it's 1 plat per skill.

Sir Skullcrasher · Oct 13, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28

just cap some elites and buy some useful skills. you don't need everything skills that is available out there.

Desslok · Oct 13, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38

I agree that you don't need every skill. On the other hand if you have completed everything and don't care for PvP then why not try to collect all of the skills (assuming you are still enjoying the game).

I figure I will get the skills I want in all of the secondaries and then see where I am at. I could see eventually trying to unlock all of the skills but I don't see any reason to be in a rush. And as stated earlier in the thread you definately should do all of the class specific quests before buying anything. Since the quests stop at Yak's Bend you can probably solo all of them in a couple of hours. This will net you some decent skills for your secondaries at no cost and then you can pick up the ones you want to try out over time.

[email protected] · Oct 13, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I would like to unlock every skill of a third secondary, but the skill points are lacking. Who wants to grind out 25 skill points in UW?

LifeInfusion · Oct 13, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I was a W/R before, now I am W/N for plague touch.

I had every ranger and warrior skill unlocked by the hell's precipice mission.
That's when I changed secondaries. It took me about 10 hours or so to get the necessary skills for necromancer secondary. I have some still left to buy (not unlock,buy - I have everything unlocked).

The point is, what secodnary skills advance your SPECIFIC build. i.e. if you are a w/mo, why bother buying something like healing touch, divine boon, etc. If you are a warrior, all the primary attribute skills usually aren't advsiable unless they don't vary according to te attribute level (which is uncommon).

badd · Oct 14, 2005, 10:01 AM // 10:01

whats the point of unlocking on? u dont have room for a pvp...

Oct 13, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#1
[email protected] Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005	Need about 600 more skill points please... 4 lvl 20 PvE chars wanna try out another secondary profession. The only choice is to delete the characters and restart what a situation. Example, a lvl 20 E with 2 classes unlocked wants to try a third, Ranger secondary as profession. Changes in desert, gets 2 skills by default. Has 2 skill points, needs 15 skill points. Kinda short eh??? What about the other secondaries? I'm about oh 150 skill points short per character of being able to switch secondaries in PvE, yet I have most primaries unlocked. So....delete hundreds of hours of work to try a secondary on a fully unlocked character??

Oct 13, 2005, 06:52 AM // 06:52	#8
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	You don't just get pre-searing skills from the ascalon & Northern Shiverpeaks quest's. Yes you can get the basic skills - but you also get a small selection of skills not available in pre-searing. Like doing the Ranger quest's for Master Ranger Nemtre will net you Hunter's Shot, which is not a skill you get in pre-searing. In fact you can pick up quite a few skills per class in the Ascalon region as well as in Yak's Bend & Traveller's Vale. These are skills not available in pre-searing and come from class specific quest's. If you refuse to do those quest's and waste skill point's getting those skills.. thats your problem. Take Monk's for example. Two quest's they can do is Replacement Healers & The WayWard Monk quest's.. I believe these are monk specific.. and will net you 5 Monk skills.. Vigorous Spirit, Pacifism, Divine Boon, Infuse Health & Strength of Honor. None of these are pre-searing skills.. and all 5 are easy to get via these quests.. and I do believe these quest's are only offered as Monk primary/secondary... Thus if you waste skill points getting those 5 skills.. your a bloody idiot mate. Last edited by Kamatsu; Oct 13, 2005 at 06:57 AM // 06:57..

Oct 13, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#2
Saba The Hobo Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Homeless. Profession: Mo/N	Best bet is to load up on scrolls and do UW/FoW runs. They lowered the xp needed to get new skill points to somewhere around 15k now, so it shouldn't be that hard (boring, but it beats making a new characters) to grab a few with scrolls up.

Oct 13, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52	#3
[email protected] Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005	How many skill points does someone get on a UW/FoW run?

Oct 13, 2005, 05:04 AM // 05:04	#5
[email protected] Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005	Can u narrow that range a bit, and skill points, not exp points. I'm guessing 2 is a good run, so three runs I can buy a few skills. How long does a 2 skill point run take in UW/Fow??

Oct 13, 2005, 05:06 AM // 05:06	#6
Kai Nui Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you with a knife Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE] Profession: Me/	you start all new classes from desert back at ascalon to get your 4 or so skills per attribute.

Oct 13, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14	#7
[email protected] Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005	Yea I'm aware there's several quests dedicated to each profession near ascalon. This gives you the pre sear skills. Other advanced skills you must buy from trainer if you've already done the primary quest.

Oct 13, 2005, 02:28 PM // 14:28	#10
Yukito Kunisaki Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Profession: W/N	You are a "skill" packrat... You don't NEED 150skill points. All you need are a few skill points to augment a build using a few secondary skills... If you have THAT much time to lvl up 4 lvl 20 pve characters, then you shouldn't be complaining... I have 2 lvl 20s and each of them have 25 skill points to spare. Funny thing is, my W/N unlocked every single skill 'cept elites... I only get skills when I desperately need them. The majority I WIN through skill quests... Your complaint is unfounded and for me, in my opinion, whining...

Oct 13, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40	#11
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	It's only half that number, 150 is for two professions. I don't know if this is that much good news, your still talking 70 something skill points. And Yukito, it's a slim majority. You have to buy about half your skills for any profession. That's skills and elites, btw. I do agree, you don't need them all.

Oct 13, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54	#12
sleazeh Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: good from far, far from good Guild: Gaming Continuum Profession: Mo/Me	The real problem nowadays isnt so much getting the requisite experience to garner the skill points, it's being able to afford to buy them. With UW, FoW, SF, and some of the late game missions, I would expect that most characters have more skill points then they can use after a period of time. It does sting when you switch to a new secondary and spend 20-40k on skills at Ember. I also agree that at least at first, one should be selective as to which skills to purchase. If you are aiming at a complete account unlock in a short period of time....well....it's going to cost you.

Oct 13, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#13
Arturo02 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: See that third planet from the sun? Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: R/Me	it costs a total of just under 9 plat for your first 20 skills. From #21 on it's 1 plat per skill.

Oct 13, 2005, 05:28 PM // 17:28	#14
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	just cap some elites and buy some useful skills. you don't need everything skills that is available out there.

Oct 13, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38	#15
Desslok Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/N	I agree that you don't need every skill. On the other hand if you have completed everything and don't care for PvP then why not try to collect all of the skills (assuming you are still enjoying the game). I figure I will get the skills I want in all of the secondaries and then see where I am at. I could see eventually trying to unlock all of the skills but I don't see any reason to be in a rush. And as stated earlier in the thread you definately should do all of the class specific quests before buying anything. Since the quests stop at Yak's Bend you can probably solo all of them in a couple of hours. This will net you some decent skills for your secondaries at no cost and then you can pick up the ones you want to try out over time.

Oct 13, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#16
[email protected] Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005	I would like to unlock every skill of a third secondary, but the skill points are lacking. Who wants to grind out 25 skill points in UW?

Oct 13, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#17
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	I was a W/R before, now I am W/N for plague touch. I had every ranger and warrior skill unlocked by the hell's precipice mission. That's when I changed secondaries. It took me about 10 hours or so to get the necessary skills for necromancer secondary. I have some still left to buy (not unlock,buy - I have everything unlocked). The point is, what secodnary skills advance your SPECIFIC build. i.e. if you are a w/mo, why bother buying something like healing touch, divine boon, etc. If you are a warrior, all the primary attribute skills usually aren't advsiable unless they don't vary according to te attribute level (which is uncommon).

Oct 14, 2005, 10:01 AM // 10:01	#18
badd Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philly Profession: W/Mo	whats the point of unlocking on? u dont have room for a pvp...